Yikes. The Inquisitors require the "petitioners" to find experts who disagree with the system when the system allows participation only from those experts who are part of the system. Makes my head hurt. No "heretic" has a chance.
It’s very interesting indeed. A lot of mandates and terminations appeared to occur prior to or just as Omicron was sinking it’s teeth into the NSW population and causing exponential levels of infections.
But, ATAGI started identifying waning efficacy of 2 dose vaccinations as early as late October.
Further, during the initial Omicron wave in NSW, ATAGI made some rather incredible concessions in their public statements on 2 dose vaccinations as they started to heavily recommend the booster doses against Omicron.
I rather tend to think that if ATAGI recommendations are to be seen as the supreme authority for an employer to mandate vaccination, then that employer would essentially be obligated to follow those recommendations as they were updated.
There lies a conundrum. Employers were mandating 2 doses around December/January based on The Delta variant at the same time 2 doses were proven to be ineffective against Omicron. The utter embarrassment of mandating a provisionally approved therapeutic, that is subject to review at any time, without long term efficacy data was seen to be ineffective at the same time it was being mandated. Leaving employer mandates in the hands of government recommendations essentially opens up the possibility that one day mandates seem fine and dandy based on variant A and then practically overnight that could change completely and render mandates not fit for purpose. This is what happened in many cases.
Doesn’t appear to me that these ATAGI statements and summary of evidence contained within have made it into evidence in any unfair dismissal case at the FWC. Surely, if it’s perfectly acceptable for an employer to submit ATAGI statements as evidence then so to should it be for the applicant.
Most of those ATAGI statements have been updated which means sourcing the originals via wayback machine. The summary of evidence makes for interesting reading. I recommend the ATAGI statement dated 24 December 2021 titled “Omicron variant and the timing of COVID-19 booster vaccination“
Thank you for pointing me to this post. I will include it in my article. I hope you do catalogue all these cases for reference, this will be important when we file at ICAC.
The judges are ignorant of medicine so flipping the issue off to ATAGI is a way of hiding their ignorance. They don't need to deal with any case on its medical merits, despite this whole issue being of experimental injection. Of course, citizens get NO REPRESENTATION and NO RECOURSE with ATAGI. So when judges fail to provide a hearing and justice, there is NO justice. Australia is just so stupid it's almost unbelievable.
So is there a way to directly challenge ATAGI legally? Otherwise we will just lose every single court case because the judges will always refer to ATAGI’s advice. If there is no legal avenue, then it leaves only the political avenue. Would be good to know once and for all of there is any successful lawfare tactics we could use or whether that’s a waste of time and we should focus on the political side. Great job btw! Keep up the good work for all of us
Yikes. The Inquisitors require the "petitioners" to find experts who disagree with the system when the system allows participation only from those experts who are part of the system. Makes my head hurt. No "heretic" has a chance.
It’s very interesting indeed. A lot of mandates and terminations appeared to occur prior to or just as Omicron was sinking it’s teeth into the NSW population and causing exponential levels of infections.
But, ATAGI started identifying waning efficacy of 2 dose vaccinations as early as late October.
Further, during the initial Omicron wave in NSW, ATAGI made some rather incredible concessions in their public statements on 2 dose vaccinations as they started to heavily recommend the booster doses against Omicron.
I rather tend to think that if ATAGI recommendations are to be seen as the supreme authority for an employer to mandate vaccination, then that employer would essentially be obligated to follow those recommendations as they were updated.
There lies a conundrum. Employers were mandating 2 doses around December/January based on The Delta variant at the same time 2 doses were proven to be ineffective against Omicron. The utter embarrassment of mandating a provisionally approved therapeutic, that is subject to review at any time, without long term efficacy data was seen to be ineffective at the same time it was being mandated. Leaving employer mandates in the hands of government recommendations essentially opens up the possibility that one day mandates seem fine and dandy based on variant A and then practically overnight that could change completely and render mandates not fit for purpose. This is what happened in many cases.
Doesn’t appear to me that these ATAGI statements and summary of evidence contained within have made it into evidence in any unfair dismissal case at the FWC. Surely, if it’s perfectly acceptable for an employer to submit ATAGI statements as evidence then so to should it be for the applicant.
Most of those ATAGI statements have been updated which means sourcing the originals via wayback machine. The summary of evidence makes for interesting reading. I recommend the ATAGI statement dated 24 December 2021 titled “Omicron variant and the timing of COVID-19 booster vaccination“
Can be found here: https://www.health.gov.au/news/atagi-statement-on-the-omicron-variant-and-the-timing-of-covid-19-booster-vaccination
Thank you for pointing me to this post. I will include it in my article. I hope you do catalogue all these cases for reference, this will be important when we file at ICAC.
https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/die-unfair-arbeitskommission
The judges are ignorant of medicine so flipping the issue off to ATAGI is a way of hiding their ignorance. They don't need to deal with any case on its medical merits, despite this whole issue being of experimental injection. Of course, citizens get NO REPRESENTATION and NO RECOURSE with ATAGI. So when judges fail to provide a hearing and justice, there is NO justice. Australia is just so stupid it's almost unbelievable.
So is there a way to directly challenge ATAGI legally? Otherwise we will just lose every single court case because the judges will always refer to ATAGI’s advice. If there is no legal avenue, then it leaves only the political avenue. Would be good to know once and for all of there is any successful lawfare tactics we could use or whether that’s a waste of time and we should focus on the political side. Great job btw! Keep up the good work for all of us